Rise of Islam

Ivy J. Sellers and Robert B. Bluey interview Mark Steyn in Human Events I think we’re seeing the intersection of several different elements that are actually making this a very fast-moving, fast-changing world. On the one hand you have basically the entire collapse of the birth rates of most of the Western world and alongside that you have this, effectively, this successive population that’s moving into a lot of those countries.

He is talking about the Muslims in Europe.

That’s a huge, unprecedented, demographic transformation that is taking place in our lifetime.... Basically the European nations are dying and the populations in them are turning into relatively hostile Muslim populations, not all of them terrorists, but all of them, almost all of those people not sympathetic to America and American interests. And I feel that the great assumption that we all have, that the present tense is somehow permanent, or that it’s like technological progress. You know, it’s like, cars don’t go backwards. You don’t suddenly have a Cadillac Escalade and you go out into the yard one morning and it’s turned into a Ford Model T and it’s got a rumble seat and all kinds of other stuff in it. You take the view that—we think that social progress is like technological progress, that it can never be reversed, but I think it can be reversed and I think a lot of the world is going to be re-primitivized

Certainly the Islamists want to take us back to the 8th century.

in the decades ahead and America has to change.... We have had a shriveling of population in the developed world. In other words, the world that has generated the systems of liberty, and economic prosperity, and healthy living and global infrastructure that we all take for granted.

Now, can all those people die off and can you leave it to Yemen and Pakistan to run the world? They have two of the fastest birthrates in the world. What is it going to be like when most of the Western world has died off and it’s this particular demographic that is dominant? I don’t pretend to have all the answers—especially when I’m being interviewed—but to pretend there are no questions here I think is very dangerous....

Do you see Europe returning to Christianity after secularism causes its collapse?

I would doubt it. I would say the better bet at this stage is that more and more Europeans will convert to Islam. I think in a sense Christianity is going to be an underground religion in Europe, and I would think that for the immediate future Christianity’s main growth areas will be places like China. Essentially it’s going to require an entire political class and its philosophy to die off before Europe starts to recover from secularism.

Anchoress blogged People, particularly the hardline secularists, do not want to admit it but America is going to be forced to play things out on both a secular and supernatural stage, if she is going to stay alive, and not just alive but comprehensively American. Those, like Rosie O’ Donnell, who would lump the Taliban and American Christians into the same boat do not realize that in doing so they are consigning themselves to Europe’s fate. And Europe is dying. Europe will not fight.