tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10623297.post116485633420483079..comments2023-11-17T06:40:12.183-06:00Comments on Don Singleton: Did the Pope threaten a Muslim?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10623297.post-1164910363508077782006-11-30T12:12:00.000-06:002006-11-30T12:12:00.000-06:00Don, the format is confusing. Redirect my comment...Don, the format is confusing. Redirect my comments to inshallahsheed in that case. I hope you don't think I was chewing you out; I was meerly pointing out what I think the Pope is doing and how it relates to the Turkish visit.<BR/><BR/>:)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10623297.post-1164900936993069502006-11-30T09:35:00.000-06:002006-11-30T09:35:00.000-06:00Don, for all your criticism of the Pope, what do y...<I>Don, for all your criticism of the Pope, what do you propose?</I><BR/><BR/><B>Amy, where was I critical of the Pope? I am not a Catholic, but I have great respect for the Pope and Catholics, as I do for my friends who are Jewish. I posted some rantings from a site Robert Spencer identified as a Jihadist Website, and then proceeded to fisk each point he made, but that does not mean I agreed with his points. My comments (in bold) certainly don't show that.</B><BR/><BR/><I>There are passages in the Old Testament that are equally distrubing. Stoning children or women who've committed adultery, killing the enemy down to women, children and pets?</I><BR/><BR/><B>Most of those OT references were to what happened, not what God ordered to happen. And when He did indicate that some group was to be attacked, He specified the group, it was not anyone that opposed what any "Prophet" thought.</B>Don Singletonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02991386635454877389noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10623297.post-1164900077984316202006-11-30T09:21:00.000-06:002006-11-30T09:21:00.000-06:00Muslims consider our faith irrational. So? We cons...Muslims consider our faith irrational. So? We consider THEIR'S irrational. And false. Let's face it, we consider them infidels.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10623297.post-1164899995643091902006-11-30T09:19:00.000-06:002006-11-30T09:19:00.000-06:00Don, for all your criticism of the Pope, what do ...Don, for all your criticism of the Pope, what do you propose? Do you remember Jesus at the well with the woman? He dealt with her as a woman who "worshipped what you do not know" and won her over. The Pope as the main representative of the Church, more importantly as Christ to the world, has an obligation to honor the dignity of others. He's made it abundantly clear that violence in religion is opposed to the will of God. That really is his goal, not to convert the unconvertable, but to protect minority Christians in these Muslim countries. He can only do this by appealing to the respectibility of Muslims, and to their human sensibilities.<BR/><BR/>Islam is far more complex than Americans get. The Pope is a theologian and religious scholar. When he talks about "based on truth", you have to acknowledge that Muslims and Jews, therefore Christians, share the same Father in Faith: Abraham. Ishmael and Isaac share the same father. <BR/><BR/>There are passages in the Old Testament that are equally distrubing. Stoning children or women who've committed adultery, killing the enemy down to women, children and pets? <BR/><BR/>The Koran is warped, no doubt. Islam is a false religion and Mohammed a false prophet. The Pope cannot sit idly by while Muslims kill minority Christians because he won't be dipolomatic. It is up to military opponents of dangerous Islamic states to do that. The Pope must appeal to the Muslim sense of humanity and common bond through Abraham to help protect and care for Christians in these regions. <BR/><BR/>The Church cannot kill them, so we must live with them.There is no other way to do this but the way the Pope is going about it. You see what criticism gets you; murdered nuns. How is that productive? <BR/><BR/>You also don't understand that there is an 85% moderate Muslim population. The idea is to isolate the extremists and win the moderates. Moderate Muslims know that religious violence is in opposition to Islam, even though Judiasm you coudl say is a peaceful religion but calls for the "smiting of our enemies" and stoning of its own infidels. You have to maintain the context.<BR/><BR/>There is no point in poining out theological differences with these Muslims. They will not convert to Christianity, Christians will not cnovert to Islam. The Pope's point is to bring about dialogue that will protect the lives of Christians who are being marginalized at best, violated at worst. He has not backed down from his quote of the Byzantine emperor because he knows the quote is correct.<BR/><BR/>I wish Protestants could see the wisdom of this Pope. He may be the best Pope in many decades, promoting Intelligent Design and Creation over evolution, life over abortion, etc., etc. He knows what he's talking about when it comes to these religions. He is literally risking his life in Turkey for the sake of the Gospel, to bring Christ to the Christians there, bring reconciliation to the splintered Church and an olive branch to religious opponents. <BR/><BR/>What did Jesus say on the cross? Curse them all! No, it was "Forgive them, Father, for they don't know what they're doing." This is what the Holy Father is doing in Turkey. <BR/><BR/>Muslims consider our faith irrational. So? We consider there's irrational. And false. Let's face it, we consider them infidels.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com